Tuesday, January 10, 2006

Character influences

I was talking to Josh Ray (The Sergeant's handler) the other day about The Warrior DVD he got for Christmas. Interesting guy, that Warrior. But during the conversation, I kinda noticed that The Warrior, as he is now, the staunch Republican guy who tours colleges and rouses the rabble, is a huge influence on the way I play The Phantom Republican. It got me to thinking about who the influences for my characters are, because let's face it, we're all influenced by our surroundings, no matter how original our characters are.

So withour further adieu, all the influences for my characters!

Jericoholic Anonymous

I think JA is the character who's most "me" out of all of them. I guess that's why he's my "A" character. He has a lot of my sense of humor, which I sorta cribbed from Family Guy, the Simpsons, Mel Brooks movies and my own friends from high school and college over the years. So I guess you can say that through me, Brooks, Seth McFarlane, Matt Groening and folks I know/knew are influences on the JA character. Chris Jericho is a no-brainer, seeing that the character in part is a homage to the Ayatollah of Rock 'n Rolla, but I hope people don't make the mistake of thinking he's a Jericho rip-off. But most people haven't had that problem yet ;) With the Gimmick Infringement ® stage, he cribbed a lot from other wrestlers, but I've grown him out of that.

I think by now, I can admit that Dave Brunk is a huge influence on the way I promo. I know people want to say that they're always 100% original in the way they as handlers write, but not everyone can innovate. I don't blatantly plagiarize him, cuz that's idiotic (and I will tackle a post on plagiarism in e-fedding soon), but I do admit that he's influenced the way I write JA since I brought him back full-time.

I think wrestling-wise, JA was a hybrid of Jericho, Eddie Guerrero and a little bit of Chris Benoit and some WCW spot lucha. I kept some of that style for him, but I also added in a healthy does of Japanese head dropping, effectively making JA a bully to cruiserweights everywhere and someone who can inflict damage on bigger oppoonents without contrived offense.

Maggot

The idea for the Maggot character was actually thought up by my cousin Steve, but where he is now is a far cry from the character he was when he was first dreamed up.

It's really hard to say who influences Maggot the character, because there really isn't a non-insane wrestler who hangs out in sewers and boiler rooms voluntarily. The way he promos though, I guess Cactus Jack in WCW or the WWF is a big part. There's also a giant underdog complex going on, or if not underdog, then a classic counterpuncher, someone that Dan West has said "will take ten punches to deliever one."

Wrestling-wise, I guess he's a combination of Hulk Hogan in the 1980s (in the respect that he is a proficient technical wrestler who chooses not to use that to its fullest), ECW brawlers and I guess Chris Benoit (when he does decide to use his technical wrestling skills).

Roderick McRatrick

Roddy can be described in two ways, I guess. He's the gimmicky, smart-alecky, "funny" part of JA in concentrated bulk form, or he's loophole Chris Jericho turned up to eleven... thousand.

But even those descriptions wouldn't do him complete justice. Once again, I get a good amount of influence from Seth McFarlane here, because I use Family Guy cadence with him, probaby moreso than JA. Groening too... actually, the premise for the introduction of "Rodney McRipped" was totally lifted from a Simpsons episode. For those who don't remember, his second match, Roderick hired "Rodney McRipped" to wrestle in his place, using the premise that sometimes, after the pilot episode, some characters and appearances are changed. That's a lift from the Simpsons episode where there's a cop show on TV where the main character shares a name with Homer.

There are also a lot of sexual innuendo with Roderick, mostly on the gay and pedophile side of things. Not sure where I picked that up, but I thought it definitely added to Roddy's seemy underbelly.

I'd also say that Dan West's and Bill Dempsey's comedy characters were a major influence on Roderick. (ProfT and ElT specifically) Most people won't say it though, but if they're doing a comedy character in an A1 fed, they're probably in some way indebted to Dan and Bill.

The Phantom Republican

As I stated above, the Warrior as he is now is a major influence on him. Plus, stuff I pick up from neocon talking heads like Bill O'Rielly or the right wingers from the A1 Politics forum is huge for what GOP is all about.

I figure these are the major ones right now. I may come back later with my influences for Benoitholic, Suleimon, Jimmy Donovan and others later.

5 comments:

Joshua C. Ray said...

It's not often that I can make someone think. I'll have to write this down on my calendar.

Anonymous said...

So who is Irishred influenced by? Well the largest part of Irisrhed is from my life. I grew up in bars that my parents owned and managed, I grew into that role myself, I am basically just a step above your basic white trailer trash redneck in a lot of my thinking, I'm not politically correct, I love my 70's music, I demand respect, I'm crabby a lot of the time and used to love love love to fight. I really am German/Irish and use that perculiar mix and temperment an lot. Been through the whole pills and booze thing and came out on the other side alive and better for it. When Shane got locked up; Irishred got locked up. I wrote all of it right into my RP's and charecter.
So Irishred is Shane and Shane is Irishred for the most part.
Wrestling style I guess I go back to old Georgia Championship Wrestling that first influenced me. Buzz Sawyer, Dick Murdoch, Dick Slater, Dusty Rhodes, Tommy Rich, Wahoo McDaniel, Arn Anderson, Mr Wrestling II, etc. So that is the image I try to portray with his promo style and wrestling style. Not real pretty but tough and dirty. Will break out a wrestling move now and then if he absolutely has too.
I like to say that The MidWest Mafia was inspired by the Horsemen...well that was in my mind but that isn't how it turned out. I think the original (and greatest Mafia back in 99 and 2000) of Irishred, Mango and Meatbag was more heavily influenced by The Freebirds of Gordy, Hayes and Garvin. I could be wrong...but that's the way I always saw it.
So that's all I have for that. Great topic Josh and Tommy.

-Shane

Joshua C. Ray said...

The Sergeant has my attitude for the most part. Although we haven't lived the exact same life, he carries my attitudes and what I vision of myself.

Wrestling style? I fancy him as a Ricky Steamboat, Chris Benoit, and Dean Malenko hybrid.

Anonymous said...

I've been trying to think about this one but it's tough. I know that I crib a lot for my various characters from other influences, it's just that I've been using those voices for so long that I forget what inspired them initially. I'll try to put some more thought into it with my other characters, but I'll start with FF because that is the character most closely related to me.

Freakfish

Like I said, Freakfish is the character that is most closely related to me so a lot of what he says is what I would say. I dress it up a little bit, and obviously there's the whole "me with the volume turned up" thing, but his humor and ego can be found somewhere in me.

For wrestling influences, I think FF is a mixed bag. There is definitely some Jericho there, some HHH and some cocky heel era Shawn Michaels. Probably some Flair too, but I think everyone probably owes something to Flair at this point. I fucking KNOW that I'm missing someone else too.

Other influences would be Dan West, this guy dumi from MBE's early days and Hida Yakamo. There's also a bit of a rockstar vibe to FF, so probably throw in some Bono at his most pretentious, add in some David Beckham for style points and a pinch of Ocean's 11 Brad Pitt and I guess that says it all.

Mike Stanton said...

Doc Silver

the name was lifted off a friend who wrote over 300 pages of matches in a journal of his for a league he booked called "SWA" that he booked himself and basically just read the matches to fellow nerds like me.

The gimmick started as a knock off of the Doc character from the league until one day I just totally changed the character into what he is now, which is basically me.

Bloodhunt is also me, but just merely the part of me that's focused on the JFK assassination and not the garbage/poker side of it.

The First is a bit trickier to Rp since I'm not at all like him. I made the character basically to make a mockery of narrative Rp, but he didn't work out that way. So I base him off of Rozy, the goth co-worker I hung out with back east, she's my offical 'quality control' agent with him.